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2.7.07

At The Hogg And Stone

In the public bar of the Hogg & Stone everyone has an opinion and it is one they have arrived at by thinking for themselves. Reference to authority is left at the door. Succumbing to peer pressure is considered wimpy. Subscribing to groupthink is given short shrift. The floor and walls are lined with carpet to prevent the tavern from having an echo-chamber effect. Bob can drink wine with his beer-swilling mates. John likewise can drink beer with his wine-quaffing friends. Debate at the Hogg & Stone is lively. And it is okay to dissent even if you are dissenting to the dissenters.

That was just a wee bit of creative writing inspired by the title of this entry. What I am referring to are two personages in Australian political life (both more well-know from the 70s to the 90s than they are now). One is Bob Hogg and the other is John Stone. Both public figures have impressed me in the past specifically because they have publicly expressed opinions at variance with the political movements they belong to and done so in a considered rather than sensationalist way. It is to them and to the ability to dissent that I dedicate this post.

Bob Hogg is a member of both the Australian Labor Party and the Australian Council of Trade Unions and has held key positions in both. One would think that someone like Hogg would want to tow the party line but in 1999 I noticed he had an opinion piece in a major paper in which he was criticising the then federal Labor Party opposition to the introduction of a Goods & Services Tax (GST). Hogg directed his criticism at independent (now retired) Senator Brian Harradine for having decided to decline negotiating with the Howard Government over A New Tax System. By writing this Hogg was also effectively criticizing his own party for likewise opposing the GST. Why? For Hogg the introduction of a GST was an effective long-term strategy for securing core Labor policy objectives (like the funding of public health and education services). The same tax (under the name Value Added Tax) had been implemented in Europe (by stablemates of the Labor Party in the Socialist International) for the same welfarist objectives. Hogg amusingly described the legacy of the Roman Catholic Harradine to his many descendents of having to cope with underfunded schools and hospitals as a result of an aging population and shrinking tax base. In the letters pages in coming days Hogg copped a lot of rather irate and even personalized criticism for daring to say something at variance with that of his party. But if we are to have any chance of assessing policy on its merits we have to do exactly what Bob Hogg did.

John Stone is both a member of the National Party of Australia and has been involved in free-market think tanks such as the H R Nicholls Society (making me think of him as more a Liberal that a National but then there are always personal and circumstantial factors in what party one finds oneself in). In the last six to eighteen months I have noticed Stone having opinion pieces in the papers in which he is roundly criticizing the Howard Government for its efforts to transfer responsibility for many portfolios from the state to the Federal level. We are in a rare time in Australian history in which all state and territory governments are in the hands of one party (Labor) while also having a Liberal-National government at the Federal level. It may be pragmatic for Howard to centralize his power but Stone reminds us that historically it is the Liberal Party that defended states-rights while Labor was much more into notions of unitary power by such moves as removing upper houses (which is why the Queensland state parliament is unicameral). Stone is scathing of Howard because his efforts to centralize power are self-serving and overlook the very important role states play in diffusing power in our nation. Stone wishes us to preserve this particular check-and-balance on government authority and warns that it is one that will come back to haunt the Coalition once Labor returns to power as it eventually must (much as the abolition of the Queensland upper house came back to bite Labor on the bum there). John Stone is interested in the long-term functioning of our political processes rather than in how much power his side of politics can amass here-and-now.

I happen to agree with Hogg and Stone respectively on the two issues discussed here. But I make reference to them for a much more important reason than just to express opinions on two disparate issues. I refer to them because of my concern that at all levels and in all areas of politics we are too prone to peer pressure. It comes under lots of names these days such as 'echo chamber effect' or 'groupthink' and in all those guises it hampers our ability to understand one another and come to decisions that serve our best interests as a society. I use the phrase peer pressure because in that form everyone understands it as a problem whether at work or school. It happens at the political level too and it can be very difficult to overcome. It is something that anyone involved in political debate needs to be aware of lest they succumb to or perpetrate political peer pressure.

So come have a drink with me down at the Hogg & Stone...

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  • Hehehe... thanks for extending my story Jac.

    I think it is more a technical than an ethical conumdrum similar to the question of "is it right to tolerate intolerance". In part such phrasing confounds our desire to be consistent. But in order to be consistent we have to get past the wording and into the practical effects of what we do. I would support some limits on dissent but only if it was demonstrably necessary.

    Still you make me think of another issue: The distinction between arguments and fights. Many of us are conflict averse so we do all we can to minimise arguments. This becomes a problem if debate is a necessary part of groups solving problems.

    The key is to develop an ethos of playing nice so we can be firm in how we argue and focus on the topic rather than the personality of those arguing.

    By Blogger Dan, At 18 July, 2007  

  • Looking back over almost two decades I'm surprised at my concern back then over concepts like echo chambers. It is something well connected now with the era of mobile internet multi-media addiction. We have been well-concerned with it for some time - longer than I had remembered. But then I guess I was always well-attuned to political trends that transcend party political lines. And I understood group-think because of my long involvement in groups. Wonder if such awareness is even remotely useful.

    By Blogger Dan, At 19 January, 2024  

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